so with that said, yeah, i did not know that ariel castro that they speak so highly of. again, like i said, i was biased. i was close to two people who he had hurt emotionally, physically, so you know, i didn't have those same feelings about him. but at the same time, i could see how it was not something that was publicly discussed. things like that are often, you know, kind of kept hidden. i think that perhaps at first, maybe it wasn't, you know, known that he was so savage about it but i think eventually her family had to realize, you know, how drastic things were and she told me how, you know, sometimes she wouldn't be able to talk to her family, she wouldn't be able to leave, and then she had small children. it was just, you know, i didn't know that, you know, nice person because these were the stories i had heard.